Kevin – I can't lie man, these are by no small measure the highest quality, amazingly crafted gloves I've ever handle. The leather quality and stitch-work is outstanding, and you were exactly right, they sent you exactly what I was hoping for....a tight nap flesh side. On top of all that the fit is perfect. I handled a pair of....gloves a week or two ago, it's clear as day that Geier is several leagues above and beyond them and everyone else. I'll be buying gloves from you alone here forward. Thank you kindly for all your help and time for just a single pair of gloves.